Hanne Ørstavik is best known to the English-speaking audience for her novel "Love", a 2019 finalist for the National Book Award in Translated Literature and winner of the PEN Translation Prize. Hanne joins us live from her home in Norway (at 11pm at night) to discuss her most recent English translated novel "The Pastor," also joining the conversation is translator Martin Aitken, whose translation of this extraordinary novel rings with the brilliance and rigor of a master.